OSHA to take control!!!

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DarthFerret

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Ok, not sure if anyone has heard this yet, but seeing as my job deals with OSHA everyday, I figured I would pass this along. OSHA is trying to pass a rule for anyplace that stocks weapons ammunition. Along with a lot of other bad regulations the biggest one is that: "if there is a lightning strike within 5 miles of that business' location, they have to evacuate all the employees and lock their doors against any entry."

This rule will make it virtually impossible for anyone to get any type of ammunition for any reason: hunting, protection, recreation, etc... by preventing large stores such as Walmart, Academy, Target, etc.... from selling this amunition due to the fact that they will not shut down for any little storm.

This is a backdoor violation of our 2nd ammendment rights and must be stopped. OSHA has allowed a 60 day period for comments on this proposed rule. Please contact your local congressman or visit the site www.osha.gov for more information and to leave a comment.

Sorry, but this really has me concerned. Thanks for puttin up with my rant here.
 
Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
DarthFerret said:
This rule will make it virtually impossible for anyone to get any type of ammunition for any reason: hunting, protection, recreation, etc... by preventing large stores such as Walmart, Academy, Target, etc.... from selling this amunition due to the fact that they will not shut down for any little storm.
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Firstly, don't most people buy ammo from smaller stores anyway? Or maybe there's just so much demand for it in Texas...

Secondly, what makes this any different from all the other stupid OSHA regulations that no one obeys and that are never enforced? Also, OSHA can't enforce this one anyway, because the shops they'd be trying to close down over this would invariably be the ones with the guns...

OSHA man: We have to evacuate the building.
Gun totin' ammunition salesman: Well, Mr. .410 here reckons that the lighntin' was at least six miles away from this here establishment. But if you want, I can ask his brother, Mr. 12-gauge...

Thirdly, this doesn't infringe the right to bear arms. Maybe if there were a right to buy cheap munitions using Wal-Mart's low, low prices or something. I do think this is dumb, but that's bureaucracy for you...
 
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Nightstalkers

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Hell, OSHA can't enforce a damned thing. I've complained to them about local jewelry stores and all they do is send me appologetic letters and boohoos about how the place has been investigated.

Violations:
1. No circulating ventillation system in workshop.
2. No working heating or air conditioning in the workshop
3. Extremely cramped work environments (jewelers and watchmakers working in stalls barely larger than a woman's workbench)
 
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DarthFerret

Guest
The simple fact does remain, however, that OSHA does take action when neccessary. Here in Texas close to one of the busiest ports in America, I see OSHA almost everyday. The fact that I am an OSHA trainer may have something to do with it..:D.

OSHA right now is fighting for thier funding from the government. They generally speaking do not come out to investigate a company unless there is a significant injury or fatality. Just with Forklifts alone, there is an average of 1 death every 3 days (in America). This alone keeps them moving. Add in any injury accident (of which there are 10-20 every day in America) and you can see how thin they do get stretched.

To clarify, I do not work for OSHA. I just provide approved training for Powered Industrial Equipment. However, I do have to work closely with them during any investigation. In Houston, there have been 3 major investigations (fatalities) in my field this year. Another part of the OSHA rule that is under comment right now, that I failed to mention, is that they will be requiring all ammunition to be stored in a seperate location from any firearm.

I really do not think this will pass, however, I still think it is a good idea to contact OSHA, the NRA, or your congressman to try and prevent the rule from happening. you have 59 days now...(grin)...
 
Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
DarthFerret said:
Another part of the OSHA rule that is under comment right now, that I failed to mention, is that they will be requiring all ammunition to be stored in a separate location from any firearm.
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What's wrong with that? Does the 2nd amendment say "the right to conveniently buy and bear arms"? Register and title all guns, just like they were an automobile.

The Lightning thing is silly.
 
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Nightstalkers

Guest
The jeweler thing is an ongoing threat. Without proper ventilation its like subjecting your staff to working in a building with exposed asbestos and peeling lead paint. Then again, I shouldn't really complain, the management for these stores can't seem to read a simple contract and follow it. They still have staff that is supposed to have health insurance but they haven't actually put them down in the books or signed them up for anything.
 
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train

Guest
Looked into OSHA training while in Architecture, especially during the Design-Build course I was taking... interesting how OSHA can seem to spread to every little region where work might be done... and find something to implement about it...

Annnnddddd..... More ammunition is needed in TX.... :D
 
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sageridder

Guest
I would love to know how one would know how far off a lightning strike had occured. For that matter I would love to see some statistics on lightning causing ammunition to go off inside a building. I mean it would be like the odds lightning striking a building X that particular building having ammo X that building having inproper structural grounding X that fault being close enough to said ammo to make it fire. I mean think about it it's even worse odds than being hurt by lightning while shopping in walmart.

Mooseman said:
What's wrong with that? Does the 2nd amendment say "the right to conveniently buy and bear arms"? Register and title all guns, just like they were an automobile.

The Lightning thing is silly.
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My worry with that would be that the person handing over a firearm to prospective buyer wouldn't know if in another part of the store that person had obtained ammo for that weapon. Now if thet said the areas for buying firearms and ammo had to be seperate and you had to go through a metal dector and have security escort you and your purchase out of the store it would make a little more sense, but not much in my opinion.
 
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DarthFerret

Guest
Just so that I can let everyone know, the Proposed Standard has been shut down completely. If I hear anything else will let you know.
 
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train

Guest
Maybe they read our thread and agree on the absurdedness of it...
 
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train

Guest
I don't see OSHA being bullied by too many organizations... but an extra yacht here... or a vacation house there makes many a man take a different direction...
 
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