Casual Card Hall of Fame Discussion

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Ransac

CPA Trash Man
I didn't say "is to be." I said "needs to be." He CLEARLY has no idea what he's doing.

Ransac, cpa trash man
 
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Ransac

CPA Trash Man
While I believe that a planeswalker needed to be included in the conversation for the HOF, I still completely disagree that any of them was worth selection. Unanimous vote as well. Complete miss by the voting panel, imho.


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Spiderman

Administrator
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Well, only one was nominated and we all agreed that it trumped the rest of the nominees, good as they were.
 
Shabbaman

Shabbaman

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Ransac;286628 said:
While I believe that a planeswalker needed to be included in the conversation for the HOF, I still completely disagree that any of them was worth selection. Unanimous vote as well. Complete miss by the voting panel, imho.


Ransac, cpa trash man
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Are you implying that planeswalkers have no casual appeal?
 
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Ransac

CPA Trash Man
Shabbaman;286721 said:
Are you implying that planeswalkers have no casual appeal?
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Not at all. I'm merely insinuating that, because this was the first set to have Planeswalkers, other worthy nominations were dismissed. Each of the Planeswalkers have a casual appeal to them (and I believe Chandra fit this the best), but I thought that R&D did a fantastic job designing the overall flavor of the entire set (from a casual perspective) and the Planeswalkers were not at all the best choice. '

I'm simply not impressed enough with "First set with planeswalkers = automatic selection" concept.


Ransac, cpa trash man
 
Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
I want to note that the Morningtide choice actually was unanimous. I have been having computer problems (specifically, my computer is old and the hard drive is probably deteriorating or something) and not been on much, so I was rather hasty in sending out the PM. I sent it as a response to the last one I had received, which was sent by Rokapoke, so Spidey never saw it.

Also, why does the link direct me to the 19th page of this 22-page thread?
 
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Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Sorry for the confusion, I'll change the Hall thread to reflect the unanimous choice.

And probably because there's a "page=19" hardcoded in that link. I'll change that too.
 
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Ransac

CPA Trash Man
I like this choice. Much better selection than the last one and obviously the most casual nomination amongst the contenders.




Ransac, cpa trash man
 
turgy22

turgy22

Nothing Special
Wow. I had no idea this thing was still going on. Thanks, everyone, for letting me know I'm on the committee, especially rokapoke for the nomination. :p
 
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Spiderman

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Oops, I thought you read all of the threads, although I see you didn't vote for the next committee member... my bad, I'll send a PM in the future to the winners.
 
Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
Since I've only said anything about the Shadowmoor nominees in my one PM, I just want to note that the winner was my least favorite choice this time. Apparently I'm the exception and I suppose with enough people someone is going to be. I ranked Swans first, Oona second, Wort third, and Reaper King last. I don't think it's a terrible card, but I am a bit surprised that it's so popular.
 
turgy22

turgy22

Nothing Special
Here was my argument for Reaper King:
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Reaper King, IMO, screams casual. First of all, it's a pioneer in the multicolor department (much like Sliver Queen, who won Stronghold), being the first 5-color hybrid mana card. BUT, by the nature of it's 5-color arrangement, it can actually be played in any deck, which I find interesting.

I also think it's the best nominee because it's a powerful card, but a niche card. It wants you to build a deck around it... a deck of scarecrows, which are also a niche creature type... and, IMO, a casual creature type (like Ninjas or Thallids). And, if you manage to put the right pieces around it, it turns into a 6/6 Vindicate on a stick, while giving all the pieces around it +1/+1. At the same time, it's still delicate (expensive + artifact + creature = anyone can deal with it) enough to be exciting when it actually works.

On a different level, it has a lot of qualities that draw casual players to Magic. 6/6 = big. Legendary = cool. Multicolor + artifact = unusual. Art = creepy, but he's got a pumpkin on his head, which is kind of funny. The flavor text is solid, if unspectacular.

So Reaper King gets my vote atm. I'd vote Swans #2, Wort #3 and Oona #4, if we need a "points" tie-breaker.

PS: I just read the nomination thread and I think it's worth noting that 3 of the 4 people who put in nominations mentioned Reaper King. Shabbaman called it "unmistakably cool" and Ransac said it was "so ridiculous." And that's from the people that didn't actually nominate it.
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Also, I'll note that of the four nominees, I've only actually played with one - Wort - which I never really had any fun with. I've played against Oona numerous times and it never felt casual. I was fairly open to either Swans or Reaper King, but just looking at them, Reaper King has a more casual feel. You don't even really need to make an argument for it. There's so many quirky things about it that makes it seem like a casual HOFer. Swans is the sort of card I love - efficient with a quirky drawback - but not so "casual" IMO.
 
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