Discussion in 'CPA/WOTC Magic Issues' started by Spiderman, May 27, 2011.
Tucked away in Tom LaPille's article, there was mention of a new format: Modern
I hope they approve this and then institute it on MTGO. I like playing there, but don't play often enough to keep up with the new sets. The last time I tried, all my favorite decks had rotated out of Extended, so I tried Vintage (or Legacy or Classic or whatever they call it on there) and got my butt thoroughly whupped in every game I played by ridiculously over-powered decks. I'd prefer if they went back a bit further, like to Invasion block, but just having a non-rotating format that doesn't go back to Alpha would be nice. The 10th edition card face change seems a fine starting point.
I don't care for this, maybe because I don't play MTGO. Legacy has a lot more appeal for me. Most of my cards are older anyway and would be excluded in this format. Also, I don't really buy the comparison to Legacy, but without the card availability problems. Sure, it eliminates some pesky Legacy staples that are hard to come by for newer players (or anyone, really). Dual lands, FoW, um, Moat. But also cuts out thousands of other cards that aren't ridiculously expensive. Most of them are unplayable anyway, but still...
Oh, and, at least for actual printed cards, this would have some pretty major availability problems of its own. Not as much as Legacy, but that's to be expected with a smaller cardpool.
It sounds like it's a test for physical cards as well as virtual.
You mean 8th.
Also, I just realized this format would mean no Tendrils of Agony. Boring.
Changes to the format based on feedback and gameplay
I lost all interest in Extended when Invasion rotated out, because it killed my Rock deck. I was already in mourning because of the earlier banning of Vampiric Tutor. I still think that Extended was a very nice format after the duals rotated (in 2002), up 'till 2007 when Invasion rotated. To me the appeal of such a format is to play older cards yet not play Vintage with it's high power level. While Invasion is not an old set (though it might be for some people) somehow it's a turning point for me. I guess it's because of Pernicious Deed.
Anyway, I switched to Legacy, and it's so nice not to worry about card rotations. Decks get killed because of bannings (Survival, I miss you) or because of new cards (Mental Misstep, why...) but at least there's continuity. I applaud that Wizards has seen the light in that aspect, but with this set of cards Modern has no appeal to me. Let me play with Deed or Entomb and I'm happy.
To me, it sounds like this format is geared towards "newer" players who didn't play or don't have access to the sets you guys are mentioning
Something for everyone.
Yep, It's legacy for new players.
A lot of players don't have the power cards for legacy, but want to play a format with the cards they have collected.
The only "concern" I have is with the name, "Modern". I mean, in another five years it won't be so modern, would it? That's when they'll need to come up with another "current" format
It's because it refers to the card frame: cards with the new card frame are legal, cards with the original card frame aren't (unless they're reprinted obviously). But you're right, there might be a time when the real card frame will be called the old card frame, and the current card frame will be... well, it'll still be the ugly card frame. So, let's call Modern from now on Ugly.
That's a decent summary. In the meanwhile, the prices of some cards have exploded, so this might not be the accessable format it seemed to be. On the upside: all these cards can be reprinted. That's no upside for those who already have the card though. And somehow I doubt Tarmogoyf will ever be reprinted.
It's still early as people are trying different deck ideas to figure out the format. It'll settle down.
Came across this old thread looking for something else and had to thread necromancy this gem. In fairness, I'm pretty confident that I can find some of my own predictions that look way sillier than this in retrospect. But I'd have to go hunt them down.
I really like the "Frontier" era card frame, which is a part of why I like the format aesthetically. I remember really disliking the first card frame changes, but this most recent iteration is my favorite.
Huh? Did they change the frames again? On the plus side, it could spawn another new format: Post-Modern.
Post-Modern is a name sometimes given to the Frontier format already
They did, but you didn't care.
I'm assume that I'm partial to the old frame due to nostalgia, but I actually think that perhaps the best frame they did was the "timeshifted" frame for Planar Chaos, seen on the cards that were color-swapped reprints of old cards.
I'm glad someone's paying attention to the things I post here.
At the time Wizards didn't have the habit of printing overpriced cards (discounting Chronicles, which didn't work out that well). I sold my playset of goyfs before Modern Masters, thinking they couldn't possibly be worth more after reprinting. Apparently I have no idea how the secondary market works.
On the other side, nobody expected Steam flogger boss to get a reprint either.
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